I’m still pondering critique. After recieving some yesterday from complete strangers, I’ve decided I have more to say on the matter. That and…
I stumbled on a blog post a week or so ago, and the resulting conversation got me thinking. Okay, stumbled isn’t the right word. I read Kate’s blog all the time. But her comments got me thinking more than usual about critique groups. And go read her blog first, because I’m totally using her post for inspiration.
I’ve belonged to a fair share. I’ve always ended up leaving because of, well…okay, it’s not always the same reason. Sometimes I leave because I’m a bit of a slacker when it comes to returning feedback, and when I start to feel too guilty about it, I bow out.
I’m that person. The one member who talks a lot, but takes more than she gives.
But that’s the thing. Each of these groups tends to fall into a pattern after a while. They all start off great. But as they grow, certain archtypes start to filter in. Kind of like ‘Breakfast Club.’
Except instead of the geek, the weird girl, the nerd, etc, the categories are a little different.
I’m not saying all critique groups have all or any of these, or that everyone who belongs to a critique group fits one of these categories. I’m just saying I see these pop up. But I know none of us are actually like this, because we know better 😉
- The arguer. Kate covered this one. This is the person who argues against feedback they don’t like. Which is very different than asking questions or working with the critiquer to figure out how to make something clear to them that you already understood as the author. Telling a critiquer “you’re wrong” is similar to telling them their opnion is invalid. Not nice.
- Which leads to my least favorite The opinionated. This person knows what they do and don’t like. That’s fantastic, because it makes it easy for them to articulate issues with a story. It becomes a problem when their opinion is perceived as fact and a story is considered ‘wrong’ because that person would have done it differently. (This person is frequently why I’ll give up on a group).
- The people-pleaser. I think most of us want our writing to be liked by as many people as possible. I believe as artists, it’s a deeply rooted reaction we can’t suppress unless we make a conscious effort. But…this person will focus on adjusting their story to fit every critique, even those that conflict with each other. No one will agree all the time. We have to learn to trust ourselves.
- The praise-bringer. Because who doesn’t like to be told how awesome they are? This person loves everything they read and it’s all fantastic. Hardest to dislike, but probably the most harmful under the definition of ‘critique’.
Honestly, I think to some extent all of us have traces of each of those in us. The trick is to recognize and balance them with helpful feedback – both giving and recieving. I also think frequently it becomes easier to get past these things in ourselves as we move further along in our own writing. We begin to recognize those patterns in ourselves and others and it pushes us to grow as writers.
What trait do you have (of the above or otherwise) that takes a little work to suppress?
Not mentioned, but I’m the slacker. If there are deadline, I’ll be furiously scribbling up until the moment. And if there aren’t deadlines–well, good luck.
I’ve experienced some of the same patterns in my critique groups experiences. I think it is one of the reasons why, in order to keep growing, we need to change groups from time to time. Shake things up and get different perspectives on our writing.
I probably give too much praise when I critique. Sometimes it’s helpful to know what works, but it’s more important to find out about what doesn’t.
I’m neither one of those actually. When I crit, I offer suggestions instead of saying, “This is how you should do it.” I say things like: “This scene is good, has adequate tension, etc.–but I have an idea. What if the MC does this? Do you think it’ll make this scene stronger?”
I found that even when people tell me to be harsh and to be honest, it will still hurt them if you actually are both honest AND harsh. I like being honest but not harsh, so I tend to ask questions instead, hoping that it will help the writer brainstorm ideas for a stronger scene/story/character/novel.
People pleaser. Mostly because I’m always afraid that there’s this big honking flaw in my work that NO ONE WILL TELL ME about, like that person walking around with a big rip down the back of their pants, and how do you tell them? Because what are they going to do, go in the restroom and use duct tape?
I have a very hard time with arguers– because, yeah. If I’m wrong about everything, why ask me for help? But I try to bear with them until they grow out of it…and I don’t take their crits of my work seriously until they do. Harsh, but true.
Great post. I think I was sliding into the pleaser role. Luckily, I have great friends to blog slap me back into place.
In fact, I disagreed with most of the comments I got in the same place you did. And you know what? Other than the typos, I didn’t change anything. I’m pretty proud of myself right now. 😉 Hope it lasts.